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The 'Xmas White Rose' with 'The Earl' & 2 Freights at Thornhill - 6161+166+170+179 by Views in Camera 2020

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The 'Xmas White Rose' with 'The Earl' & 2 Freights at Thornhill - 6161+166+170+179

Another 'steam treat' passes through the area as its early Xmas time and on this day its another 'Christmas White Rose' i.e coming into Yorkshire's capital, York itself. On this occasion it turns out, once again, that its been (a) some time since I was last in this area, Thornhill, near Parkgate and north of Rotherham Masbrough Station, August, 2020 in fact, see-
stills Here-
www.flickr.com/photos/vinc2020/50224810576/
and a video, here-
www.flickr.com/photos/vinc2020/50224808986/
and a 'Then & Now' piece from June last year, here-
www.flickr.com/photos/vinc2020/52988672938/

and, (b) its also some years since photographing the loco on the charter today, 'Earl of Mount Edgcumbe', on 10th December 2016, for the same Yule charter run to York, crossing Ickles Viaduct further south along the line and 2 years before that, 13th December 2014, for the 'White Rose' Charter once more, here at Thornhill, amazing... Wasn't quite sure what the site here would now look like however as a 5 year gap since last doing any shots here, meant it could have turned into another dump... though not quite that, it was still challenging to get the shots as N.R. have put mesh fencing up everywhere but have left the 'old portals' in the original bridge mesh.. with 6 of us there, almost all the small 'portals' were being used..
I had watched the coaching stock depart Tyseley at 08:19 on RailCam and on the short 'hop' from there to Birmingham New St. it paused twice, at Grand Jn; and Proof House Jn, for around 10 mins each and so ended up at platform 11 at New Street, about 29 minutes late at 09:12. I had though after this that there may well have been a problem with 'Castle' 5043, and it would result in the steam being taken off.. very disappointing if so. ANyhow, this delay resulted in a late departure of the 'White Rose' of 25mins and it ran with this just about all the way north, picking up a few mins in Derby and thence a 'sprightly' performance on north to this area. Views on RailCam, from the Derby, Wingfield and Chesterfield cameras showed the loco steaming well with plenty of the white stuff in the cold damp air, with some steam escaping from the right side, looking towards the loco, valve chest, also seen in these shots here.
These four shots show the excellent performance provided by 5043, after a brief pause at Masbrough it is seen 'doing very well' on the slightly up-grade towards Parkgate ... This is 'Vintage Trains' with 'Castle' class 4-6-0, 5043, ex-98743, the 'Earl of Mount Edgcumbe' on the 1Z15, Birmingham New Street to York, 'Christmas White Rose' charter. It all started out that morning with the 3Z15, E.C.S. move from the Tyseley Steam Trust to Birmingham New Street, platform 11, with two-tone green class 47, 47773 at the back. There were 10 coaches, and these have now been entered into the 'additional info' on the RailCam 'Livetrain' list-
W96100, W5177, W5212, W5198, W9101, 99971 'Eagle' Pullman, 99361 Pullman2, 99349 Pullman3, W3110, W35470
The charter was running only a few minutes down here and ran almost to time arriving in York just 4mins late at 12:46 .. The return service 1Z17, left York just 4 hours later at 16:41 and arrived back at Birmingham New Street, 11mins late at 20:41...

The 'Xmas White Rose' with 'The Earl' & 2 Freights at Thornhill - 6180/194+184+191+200 by Views in Camera 2020

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The 'Xmas White Rose' with 'The Earl' & 2 Freights at Thornhill - 6180/194+184+191+200

After the 'White Rose' charter headed off north to Yorks, there were other workings in the area and 2 of them, which turned up pretty soon after the 'Earl' had departed are shown here..
In a composite at top left, a set of 3, class 66, D.B.C. locos are seen heading south in sunny conditions on the 0Z54, Doncaster Belmont Down Yard to Toton T.M.D., on what one assumes is 'return to base' working. The locos in the ensemble are 66011, 66128 & 66135.
At upper right, the trio of 3 class 66s are heading towards Masbrough's S0424 signal with the divergence 'feather' lit at the top, for the move left, onto the 'Old Road' south to the Chesterfield area and beyond. Walking back along the old two-line track-bed at left, 3 N.R. personnel on 'surveying' duties, one of them told me.. The formation here was once a 5-track assembly with up and down fast line and up and down goods lines, with along a goods line running from Holmes West Sidings, along the back of the station next to platform 1 and then up to here, for slow moves out of the sidings an on north to this area..
At lower left and now in the right timing sequence, compared to the upper left shot, another of the local services now passing through here, at about the same time as this, another container train gets away north from Tinsley through Aldwarke Junction behind the camera, so its a moderately busy area at this time of day. This one however has come out of the local Newell & Write container terminal on the land once occupied by the Masbrough Sorting Sidings, a shot distance away. This is G.B.R.f. 66787, 'Three Bridges A.S.C.', on the 4L11, Masbrough Newell & Wright Felixstowe working, and on time, as they usually are.. The naming of 66787 took place on 30the June, last year, see-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ5g1EJoX8Q
A.S.C. being an 'Area Signalling Centre'.
In the lower right shot, the 'Eagles are Landing' or just coming to have a look at what all the fuss was about, think they are actually gulls scurrying about looking for another refuse dump to poke their nosey beaks into ... still, a colourful interesting shot with the background businesses now having changed yet again from what they were 8 and 10 years ago...

'A Window on the Past'; Thornhill & Beighton-I, from AW1960s & APO2010s by Views in Camera 2020

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'A Window on the Past'; Thornhill & Beighton-I, from AW1960s & APO2010s

** THORNHILL
* The sixth in a series of 'look-back' mosaics using pictures recently made available to me from Adrian Wynn's archive.
Regarding Adrian Wynn's picture collection.
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22/2/23
Note: I am currently seeking the higher resolution material from Adrian's photographic collection, both negative and digital. His partner, Annie, has offered to let me use them as I wish, and I hope she is able to find this material in Adrian's extensive collection.
26/2/23
This has now occured and I have both her permission to use original PSD files and negatives and so I have therefore up-dated the mosaic material here, with the higher resolution originals. Our meeting also resulted in my both getting some of Adrian's collected negatives and his digital camera files, from over the last 40 & 20 years respectively, and agreement to use them with due credit to him, which is what I always do here of course.
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A tricky choice here. Adrian's negative collection included only 1 shot from the past at Thornhill, as far as I have got with the material that is, but there is unlikely to be anything more.. In addition, to put to good use a couple more of the negatives, this time not on the Midland Main LIne, as seen in these images, but now on the 'Old Road' south of Rotherham, in the Beighton area. This 2nd section of part 6 'Windows in the Past', has a better selection of shots available and in fact, another set will be forth-coming in the Beighton area, but just south of there at Holbrook, next to the signalbox and colliery lines. This therefore appeared to be the most consistent way to time the 3 sets of images together, 2 sets here and a second part later dealing more with the colliery aspect.
For now, the quartet starts, at upper left, with a scan of a rather good negative, featuring class 37,m
So, this part 6 offering of the 'Window on the Past' offers, at upper left, a grand shot of the scene in the Thornhill area, north of Rotherham, all 4 views being taken from the long-standing, 'Primrose Bridge', though its not reminiscent of a bunch of primroses any more. The lower shot in the 'past' pictures, isn't one of Adrian's negatives but is included here as it closely matches the scene quite well; both of these are in the, 'photographers unknown' category. The upper and lower right-hand shots are my own which most reflect the scene shown in the past pictures at left, but as it looked in July 2015, upper and in February, 10 years ago, in 2013, in the lower shot. As may be seen from this shot, the railway formation at that time was much more interesting with two double-track sections, goods on the left, passenger on the right, and to the left of the oil train, the goods line which ran up from behind Masbrough Station. Interestingly, this line was built to connect the Earl Fitzwilliam collieries at Greasbrough, once connected by canal barge, with the newly developing North Midland railway system, allowing much faster, and cheaper, transport for the mined coal. A stub of the Greasbrough Canal remains at Parkgate, and this has featured in a 'Then & Now' piece here, a while ago, see-
www.flickr.com/photos/daohaiku/31235445146/
and a video of the rest of the material, here-
www.flickr.com/photos/daohaiku/31163484126/
the mosaic on Stubbin Colliery is here-
www.flickr.com/photos/daohaiku/30377081664/
Presumably, if the train here is following contemporary movements, then this could well be the 'full oils' from the Lindsey Oil Refinery at Immingham, en-route for processing at the Kingsbury Oil Sidings near Tamworth, with around 10 TEA type tank wagons. The present day version hasn't run on this particular, now Sunday diagram, the 6M57 working, with Colas Rail class 60, hauling a rake of contemporary TEA's with a full load of normally, 3200 tonnes, for a while; though a more easterly route is now used in the week, setting out at around 07:02. However, in the past in this area, both the north and south-bound Sunday afternoon moves can be seen here, photographed at Swinton Interchange in February 2016, with 60044, the south-bound on the full-oils at right, whilst passing it, heading north on the empties, 6E68, is 60020-
www.flickr.com/photos/imarch1/49556957842/
You will note that the south-bound move has oil tanks in a similar state to the ones shown here!
Three years later, in March, 2019, and further south at Treeton Junction, just the south-bound move, with 60059, here-
www.flickr.com/photos/daohaiku/33536960428/
and finally, the TEA oil tank map, can be seen on the following map here-
www.revolutiontrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/TEA_m...
The surrounding terrain in the earlier picture seen here, from around the 1970s/80s I expect shows the industry which existed, above the loco, I. & I. Walker Ltd, Effingham Mills, manufacturers of foundry requisites, between 1870s-1975. Poking out of the roof of their building at the back on the far left, is the only remaining structure still present on the site and it can, just, be seen in the contemporary picture, from July 2015, at top right, between the large mound of piled up dirt and the roof of Walker's old building, above the front of Freightliner 70006. The double-yellow signal, S0629, for the up line northwards indicates there is an approaching train on the passenger line, the left lines being the goods lines and the right, the passenger lines; the north-bound goods line signal is also showing double-yellow. The I. & I. Walker's building doesn't look as if its going to stand much longer, nor possibly, the building behind it. The area and signalling and track formation have all changed out of all recognition, the goods lines have been lifted, the signalling has changed to two-head, 4-aspect LED type, now designated S0427 on the signalling diagram and a new, stone reprocessing business, now occupies the land behind 37098.
Some information about 37098-
Was released from English Electric Vulcan Foundry - Works Number EE/VF3227/D752 in 1962 as D6798. First Allocated to Darnall, it was finally scrapped, by H.N.R.C. (Harry Needle Railway Company) in May 2002.
To the upper right is my, almost, contemporary picture, taken in July, 2015 showing the passage north of a light engine working, operated by Freightliner, class 70, 70006, on the Stoke Gifford to Leeds Balm Road, 0xxx, working. As just mentioned, the scene in the background has changed dramatically, with just the tower of the the old I. & I. Walker building standing out to the left of the green corrugated replacement building. Vegetation has become rampant all over, with the old goods lines now a barren wasteland of weeds and various bits of railway detritus. To add a bit of extra interest on this day, 3rd July, 2015 at around 12:19, 'West Coast Railway Company' charter, the 'Northern Belle', heads south with a class 57, 57313, 'Tracy Island' leading on the front and the rear, 57314, 'Firefly' on the 1Z22, 'Saltburn to Weston-Super-Mare' charter working on this fine warm July day... The signalling is now two-head, 4-aspect LED type, S0427, the fast passenger services operated by H.S.T. type traction have maximum line-speeds of 100m.p.h and the freight workings have to fit in with the new order; unlike the older scene, palisade fencing has now become ubiquitous.
At lower left, and not part of the 'stable' of Wynn purchased negatives, the scene in this one looks much the same as the one above it, though clearly now, the traction, _very_ pre-1967; in fact I just noticed the name indicates November, 1961. The I. & I. Walker Ltd, Effingham Mills building looks in a better state, the name poking out of the top behind the tender of one of Stanier's Jubilees, this one 45579, 'Punjab', heading north on a passenger turn?, along the up goods line. The 1st coach looks like it has seen better days and the 1st window is open which must mean its a bit 'brisk' inside for this early November day... Just beyond the small building of I. & I. Walker, is the massive Car House Colliery & GAsworks, extending north and north-east, parallel to the Midland line and marks the start of the huge industrial complex of Park Gate & Aldwarke, with its mines and iron & steel industries. Some information about Jubilee, 45579-
Designer: W. Stanier
Class: 6P
Company: LMS
Rebuild: Class 'Jubilee' from 29/09/1934
Wheels: 4-6-0
Builder: North British Locomotive Company, Glasgow
Order Number: L885
Works Number: 24137
To Service: Sat 29/09/1934
Withdrawal: Sat 15/08/1964
Service Life: 29y, 10m, 17d
Disposal: Scrapped during November 1964 at Cashmore's (Great Bridge)
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Shed Allocation for this loco-
Code Name From Date
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(New) on 29/09/1934
29F Aberdeen Ferryhill 4w/e 02/11/1935
12A Carlisle Kingmoor on 01/01/1948 (Snapshot)
66A Polmadie 3w/e 22/04/1950
14B Kentish Town 4w/e 06/09/1952
14B Kentish Town 4w/e 04/10/1952
21A Saltley w/e 04/03/1961
17B Burton w/e 18/11/1961
17A Derby w/e 22/06/1963
Withdrawn on 15/08/1964

At lower right, my corresponding passenger stock picture, this one taken almost 10 years ago, on 4th February, 2013 and shows a 'Cross Country Trains', class 220, 'Voyager', now heading north on the up main line, on the regular 1E32, Reading to Newcastle service; this now being one of only two lines remaining. This is part of the narrative, accompanying the picture at that time...

'...Part of the sequence of pictures showing what the weather was up to, it appears this odd behaviour is continuing as it was thundering and lightning here last night, then sleet and this morning, heavy, brief flurries of snow, set to continue and possibly get more pronounced by 2pm. Here a Cross Country Voyager is heading north on to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow which heralded not gold but sleet which arrived shortly after. Cross Country 'Voyager' is here running to time...'
The site at left has been cleared and there is now a stone re-processing plant, as at many other locations in this area these days, the building/shed foot-print conforms to the old I. & I. Walker red-brick building, but the only part of the site which remains, seen in the left two pictures, is the re-brick building behind with its small tower atop the roof, all now surrounded by heavy plant machinery, huge heaps of crushed stone, spoil and other what-not...Beyond this, on the north-east of the line, and on the other side, there is much new industrial re-development and all the old order has been swept away, Park GAte & Aldwarke SteelWorks however survive and are, just about, still thriving...

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Note: The older Flickr sites which I still maintain are here-
Old Image Archive sites are, no.2-
www.flickr.com/photos/imarch2/52965254622/
Older pictures than this are on the other, Image Archive no.1, site, see-
www.flickr.com/photos/imarch1/
The original site, which was 'cleared out' in January, 2020, is here-
www.flickr.com/photos/daohaiku

N.R. Culvert Engineering works, south of Thornhill footbridge - 7084+094+091+093 by Views in Camera 2020

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N.R. Culvert Engineering works, south of Thornhill footbridge - 7084+094+091+093

Sunday, 9th August. Things afoot, materials and equipment had been delivered to the area some weeks before, a container had appeared as well, blocking the road up to the footbridge. Along with additional bags of rubbish, collected from the area at each side of the footbridge, and then hung on the palisade fence at the side of the road, it made the whole place look somewhat sordid! These pictures were taken just after mid-day with the work-site to the south of the old, now caged in, Primrose footbridge, still maintaining useful camera lens apertures in the sides in, what amounts to, an open ended prison. This set of 4 shots and accompanying video, show the work-site area a few hundred metres from the footbridge and centred on the area where, on the 1955 OS map shows a large pond on the left of the tracks, in front of the VolkerRail On-Track Machine, DR75402 stood, wrong-lie as it were, behind Sheffield's S0424 signal, for south-bound moves. And, on the other side of the tracks to the right, in the 1930s, there was a large quarry which latterly became a local refuse tip; that area is now fenced of with various safety warnings about unofficial entry.. The picture at top left, shows the 'Ainscough' high-reach crane which dominates the scene, shown to full extent in the accompanying video, and the main line track-work has been partially removed above what looks like an old water course which drained water southwards towards the river on the left. I still find it impressive that all this gear can be moved in and out of a main line area, albeit at the weekend when diversions are in force and the work completed on time and the heavy plant moved and the line restore for 1st thing Monday morning. On this day, the diversions were between Aldwarke Junction, about 2km behind the camera to the north-east and south-west of here, at Holmes Junction, therefore taking diverted traffic, almost all Sunday passenger services, through Rotherham Central station; like the South Yorkshire Joint line between Doncaster and Worksop, this too is a very handy section of line to have available. There appears to be extensive hardcore materials about the place, both to the south at the work-site and at the other side of the bridge where the NR access gate is located about 400m beyond the down line signal, S0427, see lower pictures where a cleared roadway has been put in to get to the work area; looks as if NR were short of materials, then the local stone crusher on the left could help out, though this being a Sunday its unlikely there is anyone there. The rickety looking palisade fence on the left at the edge of the formation, has gotten worse over the years as large quantities of raw and crushed stone material has been pushed up against the fence, wonder when it will finally break through and causes an 'incident'. Aldwarke Junction, where all services today are being diverted onto the GCR's old line though Rotherham Central, is about 3km away to the north, the faint glow of the next signal, S0431, along the line, can be seen in the distance, and there are two more signals, S0433 & S0435, before the junction itself, the bridge crossing the line in the distance is Rotherham Road, near to the Parkgate Retail area. BnQ, Bunnings & Homebase D.I.Y., occupied the space on the right behind where the grey buildings with the blue doors are located, the green D.I.Y. building has now been painted over and was up for sale last year, not sure who or what has taken over now. All the work was complete and the materials cleared out of the way for the 1st train to run through, as it happens, a DBS freight working from Toton, passing through at 05:38, heading for Doncaster and, 6 minutes later, heading south an empty oil train from Grangemouth Ineos to the the Sinfin Sidings at Derby.

N.R. Culvert Engineering works, south of Thornhill footbridge - 122745, 74Mby MP4 Video by Views in Camera 2020

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N.R. Culvert Engineering works, south of Thornhill footbridge - 122745, 74Mby MP4 Video

* This is 1min long, so video can be watched within the Flickr interface.

This video shows the work-site area a few hundred metres north from the footbridge and centred on the area where, on the 1955 OS map shows a large pond on the left of the tracks, in front of the VolkerRail On-Track Machine, DR75402 stood, wrong-lie as it were, behind Sheffield's S0424 signal, for south-bound moves. And, on the other side of the tracks to the right, in the 1930s, there was a large quarry which latterly became a local refuse tip; that area is now fenced of with various safety warnings about unofficial entry.. DR75402 has come up from the south on the 6J32, Chesterfield Down Sidings to Masbrough Junction and is awaiting the call to duty. The view looks both north and then, over to the other side of the now caged-in Primrose bridge, the view to the south and the NR access which is around 500m along the track side to the left; a vehicle and some more materials piled up, can be seen in the distance.

Northern class 195 Empty Coaching Stock move to Harry Needle Yard, Worksop at Thornhill - 2911 by Views in Camera

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Northern class 195 Empty Coaching Stock move to Harry Needle Yard, Worksop at Thornhill - 2911

Finally, 10 minutes later, having come a somewhat circuitous route to get to its ultimate destination over to the east of here, at Harry Needle's, now occupying the old Worksop Down Yard, the colourful Northern Rail set heads speedily south along the main line, green all the way, towards at pause at Meadowhall and then a reversal at Sheffield Midland. This is the second day of this type of Empty Coaching Stock move to Worksop, yesterday's being similar class 195, 'Civity' type, that one 195107 with a similar coaching stock and tonight its, 195109 with coaches 101109, 102109 & 103109. This yet another train of coaching stock and units heading for what must now an almost full year at Harry Needle's operation at Worksop, this one is the 2nd of two runs from the west near Liverpool at the Allerton Depot coming via Liverpool, Rainhill, Patricroft, Eccles, Manchester Victoria, Huddersfield , Healey Mills, Wakefield and then a brief pause in the Moorthorpe Loop, north of Swinton Interchange, to bring it here and then on via reversal at Sheffield onto the Lincoln Line at Woodburn to Harry Needle Yard, Worksop, on the 5Z98, E.C.S. move. Some details about the class 195 from Wikipedia-
'...The Class 195 'Civity' is a class of diesel multiple unit which is currently being constructed for Arriva UK Trains subsidiary Northern by Spanish rolling stock manufacturer CAF. A total of 58 units are to be built, 25 two-car units and 33 three-car units. Construction commenced in July 2017 with an option for additional carriages part of the order.The first Class 195 was delivered in July 2018 and in November 2018, a further three Class 195/1s were ordered, taking the order to 58 units.[6] The units, along with their sister Class 331 units, were due to enter service in December 2018 but this was pushed back to 2019.[11] The first nine units entered service on 1 July 2019 on the Manchester Airport and Liverpool Lime Street via Warrington, and Manchester Airport to Barrow-in-Furness routes...'
and the whole article-
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_195