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Sidney Isaac Cook and Basil William George Roberts - 1916 by Moominpappa06

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Sidney Isaac Cook and Basil William George Roberts - 1916

The church of St Martin, Overstrand is home to three separate forms of memorial to the fallen of WW1 and WW2. Outside in the churchyard is the War Memorial, while inside the names are carved on a wooden panel. Beneath the panel there are two bound books, one for each conflict. Each name remembered receives a small potted biography which I take no shame in reproducing here.

Sidney Isaac Cook

Son of Harry and Annie Cook. Born at Gayton, Norfolk, November 6th 1895. Educated at Cromer School. Joined the 19th Bn. Kings Liverpool Regt, August 1914. Went to France August 1915. Killed in action on the Somme, July 30th 1916.

Remembered on the War Memorial in the churchyard as:- Sidney I (L?) Cook Grenadier Guards
(Look like the units of Sidney and his brother Arthur, .(see above), have got mixed up on the War Memorial.)

On the memorial board as S I Cook

COOK, SYDNEY ISAAC
Rank:……………………………....Private
Service No:……………………….17289
Date of Death:…………………….30/07/1916
Age:…………………………….....20
Regiment:…………………………The King's (Liverpool Regiment), 19th Bn
Panel Reference……………………Pier and Face 1 D 8 B and 8 C.
Memorial
THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Harry and Annie Cook, of 51, Station Rd., Cromer, Norfolk.
CWGC: www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/759034/COOK,%20SYDNEY...

No match on Norlink

The Soldiers Who Died in the Great War database records “Sydney” as born Cromer, Norfolk, and resident “Gromer”. He was soldier 17289 King’s (Liverpool Regiment).

There are two Medal index cards for soldier 17289 of the Liverpool Regiment.
One is soldier Sydney J Cook, held under reference WO 372/4/242893
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D1...

The other is Sydney G Cook held under reference : WO 372/4/242869
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D1...

Sidney\Sydney is also remembered on the Cromer War Memorial and was the brother of Arthur Harry.
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/8704341887/

Census

There is a 49 year old widow Annie, from Newbold Vernon, Leicestershire, on the 1911 census and who was recorded as the head of the household at Roughton House, Station Road, Cromer.Living with her are her sons Percy E, (aged 16 and born Gayton, Norfolk), Sidney, (aged 15 and born Gayton, Norfolk) and Leslie, (aged 13 and born Gayton).

On the day

The next day saw the start of the battle of Passchedaele - I wonder if the date is incorrect or if Sydney died as his unit moved into the line.

31st July 1917

Sanctuary Wood

89 Bde

89 Bde advanced in support of the other two brigades with 20th Bn King’s Liverpool Regt on the right followed by 19th Bn King’s Liverpool Regt and 17th Bn King’s Liverpool Regt on the left supported by 2nd Bn, Bedfordshire Regt. The 19th was tasked with filling the gap across the Menin Road between 30th and 8th Divisions.

Much to their surprise, 17th, Liverpool Regt reached Stirling Castle at 8.45am to find that they were now lead troops in the division. They dug in south of Clapham Junction facing Dumbarton Wood and linked with 8th Div on their left. 19th Liverpool and 2nd Bedfords remained at Maple Copse until 10pm when they relieved 53 Bde.
forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?11535-The-Ba...

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Basil William George Roberts

Son of Ernest Albert and Charlotte Roberts. Born Feb. 15th 1895. Educated at Overstrand School. Joined the 1st Bn. Norfolk Regt. September 1st 1914. Admitted to No.8 Stationary Hospital, Wimereux, May 7th 1915, suffering from Gas poisoning. Killed in action at Longueval, France, July 31st 1916.

Remembered on the War Memorial in the churchyard as:- Basil W G Roberts Norfolk Rgt
On the memorial board as B W G Roberts

ROBERTS, BASIL WILLIAM GEORGE
Rank:……………………………............Private
Service No:……………………………..14041
Date of Death:…………………………..31/07/1916
Age:……………………………..............21
Regiment:…………………………….....Norfolk Regiment, 1st Bn.
Panel Reference…………………………Pier and Face 1 C and 1 D.
Memorial………………………………..THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Ernest Albert and Charlotte Roberts, of Dundonald House, Cliff Rd., Overstrand, Cromer.
CWGC: www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1551729/ROBERTS,%20BA...

No match on Norlink

There is no obvious match on the Soldiers Who died in the Great War database.

The Medal Index Card for Private 14041 Basil W G Roberts, Norfolk Regiment is held at the National Archive under reference WO 372/17/19537
discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D4...

Baptism

The baptism of Basil William George Roberts, born 15th February 1895, took place at St Martin, Overstrand on the 14th April 1895. Parents were Ernest Albert, a Plumber, and Chrlotte. The family residence is given as Gunton Terrace, Overstrand.
Other children of the same parents baptised in St Martin.
Reginald Richard, no date of birth recorded but baptised 19th February 1893. Father’s occupation listed as Glazier. They were residing then at Gunton Terrace.
Leonard Henry Jacob, born 23rd December 1898.…Baptised 26th March 1899.

Census

The 6 year old Basil, born Overstrand, was recorded on the 1901 census at Dundonald House, The Lons, Overstand. This was the household of his parents, Ernest A, (aged 36 and a Painter from Haynford, Norfolk) and Charlotte, (aged 38 and from Cromer, Norfolk). As well as Basil, their other children are:-
Reginald……………aged 8.…….born Overstrand
Leonard…………….aged 3.…….born Overstrand
Alice………………..aged 1.……..born Overstrand.

The family were still at the same address on the 1911 census. Basil, now 16, was working as a Plumber.
His parents, Ernest and Charlotte, have been married 19 years and have had 4 children, of which 3 were then still alive. These were Basil, Reginald, (18 and a Plumber) and Leonard, (13 and at school).

Military career

From History of the 15th Infantry Brigade

In the interval between that early fighting and the final victory, the Brigade distinguished itself in various battles. One of the most notable was the attack on Hill 60 near Ypres in 1915. Hill 60 was the highest point on what was known as the “Caterpillar Ridge” and as such was an excellent post for observation of the ground area around Zillebeke and Ypres.

5th Division, composed of 13th, 14th and 15th Brigades, had the task of securing Hill 60 and the ridge line. The Hill was taken between 17 and 19 April 1915 with heavy losses and the subsequent German counter-attack in early May was particularly ferocious.

The Germans, unable to obtain victory, eventually resorted to the use of Chlorine gas and Brigade casualties during the first week in May 1915 were 33 Officers and 1,553 men. However, the line was held until reliefs were brought forward and the Brigade withdrawn.
Source www.army.mod.uk/documents/general/15Bde_History.pdf

On the day

From the War Diary of the 1st Battalion Bedfordshire Regiment.

OPERATION ORDERS NO.7 1/BEDFORDSHIRE RGT. Ref. Sheet LONGUEVAL 31st July 1916
1. The Battn. will be relieved at dark by 1/NORFOLK Rgt.
2. On Relief Battn. will withdraw to area East of Church, where they will get into SLIT Trenches they dug on arrival in LONGUEVAL last night.
3. O.C. Coys. will report their arrival in this area to Battn. H.Q.
4. O.C. Coys. will send one guide each to Bn.H.Q. at once to guide NORFOLK coys up.
5. Later (about 11 p.m.) the 1/CHESHIRE RGT. will arrive in the area.
6. On arrival of 1/CHESHIRE Rgt, coys will withdraw independently to POMMIERS Redoubt, without being relieved.
7. O.C. Coys. will report the final departure of their coys to Bn.H.Q.
Report on Operations 30 July - 1st August 1916. REF. Sheet LONGUEVAL 1/BEDFORDSHIRE RGT 30.7.'16 6.45 P.M.
Orders received to reinforce in LONGUEVAL 2/K.O.S.B. holding Line. 1/R.W.Kents in support. Leading platoon moved off at 6.53 p.m. and reached LONGUEVAL at 7.45 p.m. relieving 1/R.W.KENTS 10.12 p.m. O.C. 2/K.O.S.B. reported that his men were retiring from Line S.11.d.9/5 to S.11.c.5/8. A & C Coys were directed to proceed with guides of K.O.S.B. to hold & consolidate this line. B & D Coys were directed to hold line S.11.d.9/5 to S.17.b.0/9. It was proposed to withdraw K.O.S.B. into reserve at dawn. 11.45 p.m. Message received by O.C. K.O.S.B. that GORDONS 51st DIVISION were in Sunken Road & that K.O.S.B. were to bomb towards them.

31.7.'16 12.10 A.M. Enemy started intense bombardment
12.45 A.M. Orderly returned from A & C Coys & reported K.O.S.B. Guides could not show them the way up to front line. O.C. A & C Coys were instructed to establish themselves on the Line B.C.D.E. (S.11.d.4/8 to S.11.c.5.5) & to send out patrols to ascertain if any K.O.S.B. were holding forward line.
2.30 A.M. All Coys reported heavy casualties [2 officers Killed & several wounded]. B & D Coys reported themselves to be in position as ordered from S.11.d.5/5 to S.11.b.0/9. Two wounded prisoners were taken by 'A' Coy. Reinforcements had been asked for at 10.54 A.M. O.C. D Coy reported that he had been able to get in touch with Division on right. O.C. C Coy reported that owing to mist darkness & shell fire it was impossible to recognise the line B.C.D.E, that he was in touch with K.O.S.B. & would establish himself in the forward position at dawn.

Telephone communication established between Bn. H.Q. & front line

6.25 A.M. Order received from Bde to relieve K.O.S.B. who were to move into reserve. O.C. C.Coy. reported by Telephone that his patrols were unable to get forward. Two Machine Guns enfilading NORTH STREET & heavy sniping from his front. Companies were now as follows: - D.Coy from PICCADILLY to NORTH ST. on DUKE ST. B.Coy. continuing this line into DELVILLE WOOD. A.Coy. crossroads NORTH ST./FLERS RD. to ORCHARD. C.Coy. in support of A.Coy. with refused flank about S.11.d.8/3 & two platoons North of FLERS Rd. about S.11.d.4/4. C.Coy. were still endeavouring to gain touch with 2nd Divn. The position taken up could be seen from the opposite ridge & any movement attracted heavy shell fire. There was also considerable sniping from the direction of FLERS Rd.
6.0. P.M. 1/NORFOLK RGT. arrived and relieved 2/K.O.S.B. and the forward BEDF. coys, who were moved back to reserve position E. of Church.
10.30 P.M. 1/CHESHIRE RGT. arrived & relief of 1/BEDF. R. was completed by Midnight. 1/BEDF. R. returned to POMMIERS REDOUBT.
11 P.M. A patrol from C.Coy. trying to get into touch with 2nd Division approached the German line in NORTH of DELVILLE WOOD & attracted a big burst of fire.
www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/1stbn/1stbtn1916appendices.html

Winterton Great War Memorial - Army by Moominpappa06

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Winterton Great War Memorial - Army

The memorial outside the church lists
Arthur Perceval Green Lieut. 7th Norfolk Regt.

A memorial plaque inside the church asks us to pray for William Arthur Green, 35 year rector of this church, who died on August 29th 1928 and of Alice Mary, his wife, who died on December 30th 1928. Remember also the souls of their sons, Arthur Perceval 1st Lt 7th Norfolk Regiment who died in France on July 6th 1916 and Thomas Cuthbert, Mercantile Marine, Awarded the D.S.M, died on May 25th 1927.

Name: GREEN, ARTHUR PERCEVAL
Rank: Lieutenant Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment Unit Text: "D" Coy. 7th Bn.
Age: 21 Date of Death: 06/07/1916
Additional information: Son of the Rev. William Arthur and Alice Mary Green, of Winterdon Rectory, Great Yarmouth.
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. I. 22. Cemetery: ALBERT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=551889

No match on Norlink

The 7 year old Arthur P. (born Winterton), can be found on the 1901 census at The Rectory, Winterton. This is the household of his parents, William, (aged 44 and a CoE Clergymman from Gadby, Leicestershire), and Alice M, (aged 34 and from Hants). Their other children are :
Claude S…………………………..aged 6
Dorothy M………………………..aged 8
Evelyn F…………………………..aged 2
Marjorie F………………………..aged 4
Thomas C………………………..aged u/1

Alice’s sister, Dorothy K Percival, aged 28 and single, is also living with them. The family have four domestic servants, including a 17 year old Flora Larner from Winterton, (there is a George Larner below for whom I can’t find any CWGC details)

The 12th Division, of which the 7th Norfolks were part, suffered very heavy casualties in an attack on the 3rd July, and appear to have been pulled from the line, returning on the 7th July. While Lt Green may possibly have been killed while reconnoitring the trenches his men were going to take over the next day, or for a variety of other reason, the suspicion must be that he succumbed to wounds received.

For anyone researching Lt Green, there are several sites offering a picture and obituary of him, but at a price.
www.lulu.com/product/media-download/green-a-p-lt-7th-norf...

Herbert Hacon ASC

Name: HACON, HERBERT
Rank: Driver Regiment/Service: Army Service Corps Unit Text: 35th Reserve Park
Age: 38 Date of Death: 02/09/1915 Service No: T4/045157
Additional information: Husband of Ethel Maria Hacon, of The Street, West Somerton, Great Yarmouth.
Grave/Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. 3 "C." A. 4. Cemetery: GREENWICH CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=386071

No match on Norlink

The 24 year old Herbert, (born Hockering), can be found on the 1901 Census at Clint Street, Ludham. He is the head of the household, and employed as a Ordinary Agricultural Labourer. His wife is called Ethel, she is aged 21 and from Martham. They already have a 3 year old daughter, Ethel, born Rollesby.

The 13 year Herbert in on the 1891 Census at the High Street, Catfield. This is the household of his parents, Dennis and Jane, and various brothers and sisters.

Herbert gets a brief mention on this family web-site, but an accompanying photo shows us that he is also remembered on the memorial to the fallen of East and West Somerton.
www.jackie-jackson.com/family/haconsww1.htm

Richard Shreeve 7th Norfolk Regt

Name: SHREEVE, RICHARD EDWARD
Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 18 Date of Death: 31/07/1916 Service No: 16752
Additional information: Son of Robert and Elizabeth Shreeve, of High Barn, East Somerton, Norfolk.
Grave/Memorial Reference: XXIX. G. 11. Cemetery: SERRE ROAD CEMETERY No.2
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=609861

No match on Norlink

The 3 year old Richard, (born Rollesby), can be found on the 1901 Census at Low Street, Rollesby. This was the household of his parents, Robert, (aged 40 and an Ordinary Agricultural Labourer from Rollesby), and Elizabeth, (aged 38 and from Great Yarmouth). Their other children are:-
Bertie………………….aged u/1
Gladys………………..aged 6
Isaac…………………aged 9
Lily……………………aged 12

Taken from the war diary of a unit in the same brigade, the 1st Bedfords.
OPERATION ORDERS NO.7 1/BEDFORDSHIRE RGT. Ref. Sheet LONGUEVAL 31st July 1916
1. The Battn. will be relieved at dark by 1/NORFOLK Rgt.
2. On Relief Battn. will withdraw to area East of Church, where they will get into SLIT Trenches they dug on arrival in LONGUEVAL last night.
3. O.C. Coys. will report their arrival in this area to Battn. H.Q.
4. O.C. Coys. will send one guide each to Bn.H.Q. at once to guide NORFOLK coys up.
5. Later (about 11 p.m.) the 1/CHESHIRE RGT. will arrive in the area.
6. On arrival of 1/CHESHIRE Rgt, coys will withdraw independently to POMMIERS Redoubt, without being relieved.
7. O.C. Coys. will report the final departure of their coys to Bn.H.Q.
Report on Operations 30 July - 1st August 1916. REF. Sheet LONGUEVAL 1/BEDFORDSHIRE RGT 30.7.'16 6.45 P.M.
Orders received to reinforce in LONGUEVAL 2/K.O.S.B. holding Line. 1/R.W.Kents in support. Leading platoon moved off at 6.53 p.m. and reached LONGUEVAL at 7.45 p.m. relieving 1/R.W.KENTS 10.12 p.m. O.C. 2/K.O.S.B. reported that his men were retiring from Line S.11.d.9/5 to S.11.c.5/8. A & C Coys were directed to proceed with guides of K.O.S.B. to hold & consolidate this line. B & D Coys were directed to hold line S.11.d.9/5 to S.17.b.0/9. It was proposed to withdraw K.O.S.B. into reserve at dawn. 11.45 p.m. Message received by O.C. K.O.S.B. that GORDONS 51st DIVISION were in Sunken Road & that K.O.S.B. were to bomb towards them. 31.7.'16 12.10 A.M. Enemy started intense bombardment 12.45 A.M. Orderly returned from A & C Coys & reported K.O.S.B. Guides could not show them the way up to front line. O.C. A & C Coys were instructed to establish themselves on the Line B.C.D.E. (S.11.d.4/8 to S.11.c.5.5) & to send out patrols to ascertain if any K.O.S.B. were holding forward line. 2.30 A.M. All Coys reported heavy casualties [2 officers Killed & several wounded]. B & D Coys reported themselves to be in position as ordered from S.11.d.5/5 to S.11.b.0/9. Two wounded prisoners were taken by 'A' Coy. Reinforcements had been asked for at 10.54 A.M. O.C. D Coy reported that he had been able to get in touch with Division on right. O.C. C Coy reported that owing to mist darkness & shell fire it was impossible to recognise the line B.C.D.E, that he was in touch with K.O.S.B. & would establish himself in the forward position at dawn. Telephone communication established between Bn. H.Q. & front line 6.25 A.M. Order received from Bde to relieve K.O.S.B. who were to move into reserve. O.C. C.Coy. reported by Telephone that his patrols were unable to get forward. Two Machine Guns enfilading NORTH STREET & heavy sniping from his front. Companies were now as follows: - D.Coy from PICCADILLY to NORTH ST. on DUKE ST. B.Coy. continuing this line into DELVILLE WOOD. A.Coy. crossroads NORTH ST./FLERS RD. to ORCHARD. C.Coy. in support of A.Coy. with refused flank about S.11.d.8/3 & two platoons North of FLERS Rd. about S.11.d.4/4. C.Coy. were still endeavouring to gain touch with 2nd Divn. The position taken up could be seen from the opposite ridge & any movement attracted heavy shell fire. There was also considerable sniping from the direction of FLERS Rd. 6.0. P.M. 1/NORFOLK RGT. arrived and relieved 2/K.O.S.B. and the forward BEDF. coys, who were moved back to reserve position E. of Church. 10.30 P.M. 1/CHESHIRE RGT. arrived & relief of 1/BEDF. R. was completed by Midnight. 1/BEDF. R. returned to POMMIERS REDOUBT. 11 P.M. A patrol from C.Coy. trying to get into touch with 2nd Division approached the German line in NORTH of DELVILLE WOOD & attracted a big burst of fire.
www.bedfordregiment.org.uk/1stbn/1stbtn1916appendices.html


Charles Chettleburgh 7th Norfolk Regt

Name: CHETTLEBURGH, CHARLES WILLIAM
Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 11/10/1915 Service No: 16877
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 30 and 31. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=729719

Norlink has a Charles Chettleburgh of Thorpe St Andrews, and as there is only one Charles Chettleburgh listed on the CWGC database, this is potentially the same person - however, there is nothing in the accompanying notes to indicate that the Thorpe man actually died in the war.
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

The 5 year old Charles, (born Postwick), can be found on the 1901 Census at Pound Lane, Thorpe St Andrew. This is the household of his parents, Charles, (aged 31 and a Teamster on a Farm, from Thorpe St Andrew), and Mary, (aged 28 and from Itteringham). Their other children are:
Christianna……………………….aged 7.………………….born Thorpe St.Andrew
Frances……………………………..aged 2.…………………born Lammas
Mary………………………………....aged u/1.……………..born Thorpe.

The nearest Chettleburgh family to Winterton at this time appears to be in Worstead,

The Charles from Thorpe is remembered on the local War Memorial
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/2352404838/

On the 11th, the 7th Norfolks were in billets. They would return to the front line the next in anticipation of their first major attack on the 13th, which unfortunately for the Norfolks was to be fairly disastrous.

Bertie Popay 7th Norfolk Regt

Name: POPAY, BERTIE
Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Norfolk Regiment Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 27 Date of Death: 09/04/1917 Service No: 24091
Additional information: Son of James Daniel Popay, of Beach Rd., Winterton, Norfolk. Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 3. Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1604332

No match on Norlink

The 10 year old Bertie, (born Winterton), can be found on the 1901 Census at Beach Road, Winterton. This is the household of his parents, James, (aged 45 and a Gardeners Assistant from Winterton), and Margaret, (aged 42 and from Winteron).
Their other children are:-
Henry………………….aged 16.……………………Fisherman
James………………….aged 20.…………………..Fisherman
Louisa………………….aged 7
Walter………………….aged 14.…………………Ordinary Agricultural Labourer.

9th - Battle of Arras. Wancourt-Feuchy line. 37th on right, 36th on left. 35th Brigade (from Arras cellars via catacomb tunnels) pass through (12.15pm) after 2nd line reached (1,800 yards). 35th Brigade attack Wancourt-Feuchy trench and Feuchty Chapel Redoubt on Cambrai Road. 9th Essex gain Feuchy Chapel
(7th Norfolks were part of 35th Brigade)
1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=487...

Thomas Thirtle 11th Sussex Regt

No match on the CWGC database. No Thirtle recorded who was a member of the Sussex Regiment. Also tried Thistle. Approximately half the 14 Thirtle’s listed have a Norfolk connection.

(Updated October 2012 - see below for the correct identification)