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St Georges Tombland Roll of Honour - Right Panel by Moominpappa06

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St Georges Tombland Roll of Honour - Right Panel

Right Hand Panel

Henry Grimble
***************************************************

Name: GRIMBLE, HENRY
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Suffolk Regiment
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 28/09/1916
Additional information: Son of Henry and Frances Sarah Grimble, of 21, Northcote Rd., Norwich.
Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 1 C and 2 A. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=787793

Henry can be seen on Norlink here
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

The accompanying notes are:
Second Lieutenant Grimble was the son of Mr. & Mrs. Henry Grimble, of 21 Northcote Road, Norwich. He was killed in action at Schwaben Redoubt, 28th September 1916
The picture was taken in 1916.

The 7 year old Henry, born North Creake, Norfolk, was recorded on the 1901 census at 58 St Phillips Road. This was the household of his parents, Henry, (aged 46 an a Commercial Traveller from Long Stratton, Norfolk) and Frances S, (aged 41 and from East Dereham). Their other children are:-
Anne………………..aged 4.………..born Fressingfield, Suffolk
Barnard…………….aged 14.………born Norwich
Dora………………..aged 15.………born Norwich
Edwin……………….aged 5.…………born Fressingfield, Suffolk
Francis……………….aged 2.…………born Norwich
Margaret……………..aged 8.…………born North Creake
Mary…………………aged 12.……….born Norwich
Olive…………………aged u/1.………born Norwich
Sydney………………aged 10.………..born Norwich

Also living with them is a 74 year old spinster, Frances Hupton, who is described as living on own means. Her relationship to the head of household, Henry senior, is given as “Aunt by marriage”

I could not find a baptism for Henry, but I could find one for Margaret at the Virgin Mary church, North Creake, where her fathers occupation is recorded at Grocer. Going back I could find one for Barnard at St Benedicts, Norwich. Father Henry is then described as a Clerk and the family were residing at William Street.

Thursday 28th September 1916. Day 90

Thiepval

At 1pm 18th Div began an assault on Schwaben Redoubt and surrounding defences. 7th Bn Queen’s Regt was tasked with taking the redoubt itself while 8th Suffolks on the right was to take the Midway Line and 8th Norfolks were the moppers up.

The Suffolks moved quickly through Bulgar Trench but were held up in the assault on Midway Line. Nevertheless at 2.30pm they were almost in the eastern end of the Redoubt. The Queen’s meanwhile had lost their bearings but eventually reached the Redoubt where they occupied the south edge and linked with the Suffolks in Midway Line.
forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?9058-The-Som...


William Brasier Hall************************************************

Name: HALL, WILLIAM BRASIER
Rank: Engineer Commander
Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M.S. "Venerable."
Age: 42
Date of Death: 23/09/1917
Additional information: Son of Joseph and Annie Hall (nee Robinson). Born at Leeds. Served on the Belgian Coast and in Persian Gulf.
Grave/Memorial Reference: 10. 3. Cemetery: STONEHOUSE (ST. CYR) CHURCHYARD EXTENSION
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=358921

The 26 year old William, a Royal Navy Man born Leeds, was recorded on the 1901 census as a Boarder at 38 Circus Road, Marylebone, London. He doesn’t appear to be on the 1911 census.

By a strange co-incide the Ship’s Chaplain was also a Reverend William Hall, and for some reason, neither man appears in any of my usual Navy sources. However, his year of death is shown as 1916. Only the Chaplain is recorded in the GRO Roll of Honour.
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2851919

HMS Venerable did not return to UK waters until December 1916.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Venerable_(1899)

The death of a William B Hall, aged 41, was recorded in the Stroud District of Gloucestershire in the July to September 1917 quarter.

James A(?) C(?) Inglis**********************************************

Possibly
Name: INGLIS, JAMES ARTHUR CHETWYND
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment: Highland Light Infantry
Unit Text: 4th Bn.
Secondary Regiment: Seaforth Highlanders Secondary Unit Text: attd.
Date of Death: 09/05/1915
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 37 and 38. Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=855231

James has a small entry in The Peerage.Com, but nothing to link him, his parents, his wife or their child with Norwich.

James Arthur Chetwynd, born Calton, Edinburgh circa 1884, was recorded on the 1911 census in the Redruth District.. There is a James of the right age on the 1901 census, although his birthplace is only listed as Scotland, serving as a Boy Sailor in the Naval Training School at Portland.

There is a chargeable copy of a newspaper photo available from this site.
www.ww1photos.com/HLI.html

The 4th battalion HLI did not server overseas. The most likely action in which Battalions of the Seaforths s were in action on this day and which would have qualified for inclusion on the Le Touret Memorial was the Battle of Aubers.

Battle of Aubers - 9th May 1915

9 May: the Southern pincer
4.06am: sunrise and all very quiet on this front.
5.00am: British bombardment opens with field guns firing shrapnel at the German wire and howitzers firing High Explosive shells onto front line. German troops are seen peering above their parapet even while this shelling was going on.
5.30am: British bombardment intensifies, field guns switch to HE and also fire at breastworks.
The lead battalions of the two assaulting Brigades of 1st Division go over the top to take up a position only 80 yards from German front. (2nd Brigade has 1/Northants and 2/Royal Sussex in front and 2/KRRC and 1/5th Royal Sussex in immediate support; 3rd Brigade has 2/Royal Munster Fusiliers and 2/Welsh in front, with 1/4th Royal Welsh Fusiliers in support). Heavy machine-gun fire cuts the attackers down even on their own ladders and parapet steps, but men continue to press forward as ordered.
In the area of the Indian Corps, the lead battalions of the Dehra Dun Brigade of the Meerut Division (2/2nd Ghurkas, 1/4th and 1st Seaforth Highlanders) were so badly hit by enemy fire that no men got beyond their own parapet and the front-line and communications trenches were soon filled with dead and wounded men.
www.1914-1918.net/bat11.htm

William Metcalf***************************************************

Military genealogy has two William Metcalf’s who were born Norwich - both in the St James District.

However, there is no obvious candidates in the CWGC database.

There is a photograph of a William Metcalfe of the 3rd Dragoons Guards who came from Norwich listed on Norlink
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...
The accompanying notes read
Private Metcalfe was from Norwich. He was killed in action 26th September 1915

However, the same individual on the CWGC database appears to be:-

Name: METCALF, WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Regiment: 3rd Dragoon Guards (Prince of Wales' Own)
Date of Death: 26/09/1915
Service No: 7470
Memorial Reference: Panel 1. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=736145

There are at least 4 William Metcalf’s of a likely age and with a Norwich connection on the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

The Battle of Loos
25 September - 18 October 1915
26 September 1915
First Army had issued orders at 11.30pm for a general renewal of the attack at 11.00am on 26th September. Sir John French commented to Sir Douglas Haig about the futility of pushing reserves through a narrow gap in the enemy's defences, but he allowed his Army commander to continue to plan his own tactics. There was mist, low cloud and rain in the air.
11.00am: A heavy German bombardment fell on the forward positions. Without leaders, without food and exhausted, many men fell back into Loos village.
12.00 noon: First Army orders 6th Cavalry Brigade to reinforce Loos area. They send 3rd Dragoon Guards and 1st Royal Dragoons forward, dismounted.
3.30pm: A general retirement from the Hill 70 position took place. This unnecessary act was the result of some confused orders, the origins of which remain uncertain to this day. At the same time, various small units were moving into the Hill 70 positions to reinforce units there! The enemy counterattacked against the Loos Crassier, which was by now consolidated and strongly held by 1/20th Londons.
8.00pm: The two cavalry regiments, having rallied men of 45th and 46th Brigades who were found retiring from Loos, enter and clear the village and re-establish the position on the lower slopes of Hill 70.
www.1914-1918.net/bat13.htm

James Mills*******************************************************

Military Genealogy has a James Mills, born St Martins, Norwich.

Possibly
Name: MILLS Initials: J
Rank: Private
Regiment: Border Regiment
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Age: 38
Date of Death: 05/07/1916
Service No: 21396
Additional information: Son of James and Emily Mills, of go, Patteson Rd., Norwich. Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. L. 15. Cemetery: HEATH CEMETERY, HARBONNIERES
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=559891
(The Great War GRO confirms this is a James Mills).

No match on Norlink

The most likely match on the 1901 census is a 24 year old James, born Norwich and working as a Boot Laster. He was recorded at 74 Colegate Street, the household of his widowed mother Emily, (aged 50 and from Norwich). Her other children are:-
Agnes…………..aged 13.…………born Norwich
Albert………….aged 26.………….born Norwich……..Soldier on Furlough
Emily…………..aged 15.………….born Norwich……..Boot Finisher
George………….aged 20.…………born Norwich……..Boot Laster
Hannah…………aged 22.…………born Norwich
Harriet…………aged 17.………….born Norwich……..Tailorest Machinest
Harry…………..aged 11.………….born Norwich

Heath Cemetery, so called from the wide expanse of open country on which it stands, was made after the Armistice, next to a French Military Cemetery, now removed. Graves were brought into it from the battlefields between Bray and Harbonnieres and from other burial grounds in the area
www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=62000&...

The 8th Borders had taken part in an unsuccessful attack on the 3rd, but I would suspect they were out of the line on the 5th, as re-inforced they would again be attacking on the 9th as part of the 25th Division.
forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?9058-The-Som...

Jack Newstead*****************************************************

There is not a Jack Newstead listed either on the CWGC database or in the Great War Roll of Honour.

Norlink has a James Robert and (possibly) his brother Albert. Both are described as from Thorpe St Andrew.

James Robert was a Norfolk Regiment man who died 13th December 1915.
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=918819

Albert was with the Royal Sussex Regiment and died 27th September 1916
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=43973

The Newsteads are on the Thorpe Green War Memorial
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/2214802197/

There is a Jack Newstead, born Blofield circa 1899, who was recorded on the 1911 census in the Blofield District, (which at that time included a part of Thorpe St Andrews).
There is no Jack on the 1901 census with an obvious Norfolk connection on the 1901, but there are several James, including 3 of a likely age to have served and with a Norwich connection.

The baptism of James Robert, born 19th November 1888, took place at St Andrews Church, Thorpe St Andrews on the 16th December 1888. His parents were listed as Robert Tubby, a Groom and Gardener, and Louisa. The family lived in Thorpe.

Arthur Rump******************************************************

Military Genealogy has an Arthur Herbert, born Catton resident Norwich. There are two other A Rumps on the CWGC database, both with Norfolk connections, but neither on investigation was an Arthur.

Name: RUMP, ARTHUR HERBERT
Rank: Private
Regiment: Coldstream Guards
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Date of Death: 22/12/1914
Service No: 10764
Memorial Reference: Panels 2 and 3. Memorial: LE TOURET MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1561499

No match on Norlink

There is no obvious match for Arthur on the Genes Re-united Transcription of the 1901 and 1911 censuses for England and Wales. This is a common name in Norfolk, so potentially nearly 20 matches of a likely age to have served.

20th - 21st December 1914
On the 20th December, the Germans attacked the Indian troops occupying Givenchy and the Indians were forced to retire. The 1st Battalion, part of 1st Guards Brigade, was amongst the troops rushed in to help them. After marching 20 miles they launched their attack at noon on the 21st and after two days heavy fighting, Givenchy was secured. The Battalion lost a further 200 men on top of their devastating losses at Gheluvelt at the end of October.
www.shinycapstar.com/battlehonours.htm

Harold Runham************************************************

The only potential match on CWGC and the Military Genealogy site is a Henry Runham, a 1st Battalion Norfolk Regiment man who died 21/08/1918, age 19. Additional information on CWGC is Son of Walter and Jemima Runham, of West End, Whittlesford, Cambs.

CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=590333

No match on Norlink

The GRO Roll of Honour has a Ernest H. a Bombardier in the Royal Field Artillery. CWGC has him down as E H, with no additional information. There is an Ernest H on the 1911 census, but he was born Beckenham, Kent, circa 1896 and was recorded in the district of Sheppey.

Runham just doesn’t appear to be a Norfolk surname - only one instance in 1911 and one (different one) in 1901.

Bertie Smithdale***************************************************

Name: SMITHDALE, BERTIE
Rank: Private
Regiment: Army Service Corps
Unit Text: 886th Mechanical Transport Coy.
Age: 27
Date of Death: 22/07/1917
Service No: M/26949
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 18. Cemetery: MENDINGHEM MILITARY CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=87374

Military Genealogy has Bertie as born and resident Norwich.

The 11 year old Bertie, born Norwich is recorded on the 1901 census at 21 Crown Court, Norwich, in the Parish of St Peter Hungate. This is the household of his widower Grandfather, Francis Smithdale, aged 66 and an Iron Moulder from Norwich. Going back to the 1891 census, the 10 month old Bertie was still living with his grandfather at Wagon and Horses Lane, Tombland. Francis was even then a Widower. He has another grand-daughter living with him, the 17 year old Agnes, who is single and from Bolton, Lancashire. She is house-keeping for her grand-father.

My initial thoughts were I was reading too much into it by presuming Agnes might actually be the mother. But then I found a baptism record for Bertie. Bertie, born 7th December 1889, was baptised at St Georges Tombland on the 6th October 1891. The mother is Mary Agnes Smithdale. No father is listed. Mother and son live Outside the Parish - bit disingenuous as Waggon and Horses Lane is within sight of St Georges.
Even then there was the possibility that Mary Agnes was another family member, However, the only Mary listed on the 1891 census was aged 7, and from Northampton. Following that line of enquiry, there is only 1 on each of the subsequent censuses. In 1901, the now 17 year Mary, is listed as Mary E. By 1911, another woman has become Mary Smithdale, presumably on marriage, while the original one is no longer present - presumably again on marriage, but she may have died, been outside England and Wales, was missed or the name was incorrectly transcribed.

Sidney Tate*******************************************************

Probably
Name: TATE, SIDNEY
Rank: Private
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 22/05/1917
Service No: 29986
Memorial Reference: Bay 3. Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1671914

Military Genealogy has one other Sidney Tate, born West Bromwich.
Probably This Welsh Regiment man
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=44046

No match on Norlink

The most likely match on the 1901 census is a 3 year old “Sydney”, born Norwich, who was recorded at 130 Pottergate. This is the household of his parents, William G, (aged 29 and a Sugar Boiler and Shop Keeper from Norwich), and Palama, (aged 29 and from Norwich). They also have another son, William,G, aged 5 and from Norwich. Making up the household is a Hannah Ireland, aged 21, single and a Cardboard Box Maker from Norwich. Her relationship to William G senior is shown as sister, but suspect its more likely to be sister-in-law.

On the 1911 census, our Roll of Honour candidate is listed as “Sidney”

Battalion War Diary
21st May 1917 N.30.d.0.2
Battalion carried out a raid on enemy trench. Zero hour 2.am - the raiding party succeeded in reaching its objective but the trench was found to be empty, it was therefore impossible to secure identification which had been hoped for. Raiding party sustained no casualties and only one man wounded by hostile artillery retaliation.

Night 21st/22nd Battalion proceeded to 18th Division Reserve Camp in s.17.b, during night of 21st/22nd on being relieved by the 7th Queens.

22nd to 31st. Battalion remained in this camp and carried out training, etc.

(Was Sidney perhaps the “wounded” man, who succumbed to his wounds the following day.)

Cyprian Thompson******************************************************

Name: THOMPSON, CYPRIAN ALFRED
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment: Royal Canadian Regiment
Unit Text: "D" Coy.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 08/04/1917
Additional information: Son of Alice G. C. and the late Herbert H. Thompson, of England.
Grave/Memorial Reference: V. E. 9. Cemetery: ECOIVRES MILITARY CEMETERY, MONT-ST. ELOI
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=66234

There is also a Lieutenant C A Thompson commemorated on the Eaton, Norwich Great War Memorial. I speculated then whether that individual was Cyprian, although there is nothing obvious to link him with Norwich
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/3411009589/

No match on Norlink

No obvious match on the 1901 Census for either Cyprian or Alice Thompson.

The Canadian Archives have him down as born on the 18/04/1893 and his regimental number is 23071

On his attestation papers he gives his occupation as Bank Clerk and place of birth as Halifax, Nova Scotia. The scanned version is poor, but Lt Thompson is definitely not married and his next of kin looks like a Mrs A Thompson at an indecipherable address in Canada. However, I later found he was commemorated on the war memorial at Fredericton in Canada, and that could definitely be part of the address.

He had already served 2+ years in the Territorials and enlisted on the 27th September 1914. On the medical part of the form he is described as 5ft 10 ins tall, with fair hair and fair complexion and light blue eyes.
collectionscanada.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?

collectionscanada.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?im...

From a handwritten note on the attestation papers it looks like he was initially assigned to the Machine Gun detachment of the 12th Battalion.

A small picture of Lt Thompson can be seen here.
www.kingandempire.com/v_time4.html
The accompanying notes read :”On April 8, 1917, he was killed in the Vimy sector during an operation carried out preparatory to the main attack on Vimy Ridge. “

Extract from the unit war diary
9.4.17. - QUARRIES LINE.
See appendix No. 3. Lieuts. THOMPSON, BLOTT, CHURCHILL, BOLE, BECK, and ROOKS were Killed in Action. Lieuts. BARKER, DAVIES, Captain MUNN, Lieuts. GRAY, ROBINSON and LEWIS were Wounded in Action. The following numbers of Other Ranks were casualties. Killed in Action 50, Wounded in Action 159, Missing 65. It is presumed that the majority of missing will be found in Field Ambulance or will return from Other Units.
Lieut. FOSTER wounded, at duty.
regimentalrogue.com/rcr_great_war/1917_04_apr.html

Service:
Prior service; 2 years 6 months, 38th Dufferin Rifles, Brantford, Ontario
Attested for overseas service in the ranks 27 Sep 1914, regimental number 23071
Private., Aug 1914 to 21 Aug 1916
Machine Gunner, 12th Canadian Infantry Battalion
Appointed Lieut., 22 Aug 1916
Posted to The R.C.R., 27 Nov 1916

Killed in action, 8 Apr 1917

The same source notes he was wounded with shell-shock, 19-1-15 whilst serving with the 4th Battalion.
regimentalrogue.com/rcr_great_war_officers/rcr_offr_thomp...

Percy Henry Wright*****************************************************

Probably
Name: WRIGHT, PERCY HENRY WILLIAM
Rank: Private
Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit Text: 12th Bn.
Age: 22
Date of Death: 04/10/1917
Service No: 241847
Additional information: Son of Alfred William and Kate Emily Wright, of 24, Florence Rd., Thorpe Hamlet, Norwich.
Memorial Reference: Panel 19 to 23 and 162. Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=875984

The 5 year old Percy H Wm Wright, born Norwich, was recorded on the 1901 census at 56 Patteson Road, Norwich. This was the household of his parents, Alfred Wm. (aged 32 and a Carpenter&Joiner from Gt.Yarmouth) and Kate E. (aged 31 and from Norwich). They have another son, Harold B. aged 2 and from Norwich - see below.

The 21st Div was to occupy the high ground above the Reutelbeek valley (Beek - Stream), across which was the spur on the Polderhoek Chateau stood.
Four tanks were tasked to assist. In this battle the first VC for the new Tank Corps was awarded- Act Capt C ROBERTSON VC (he died winning it). Not all objectives were taken on 4th October and it dragged on for several days.

The German official history described it as 'the black day of October 4th'. The German's had planned their own attack on 4th October. The British attack began 10 minutes before theirs. Many German troops were at their jump off points when the British Artillery opened up. The British and ANZAC troops captured over 4,000 prisoners on the Second Army front. The German 45th Reserve Division lost 83 officers and 2,800 other ranks. Ludendorff said in his memoirs - ' The battle on the 4th October was extraordinarily severe, and we only came through it with enormous losses. It was evident that the idea of holding the front line more densely, adopted at my last visit to the front in September, was not the remedy'

The 3/4th Queen's took over from the 8/Leicester's on the night of 2/3rd October. The rest of the Brigade came up on 3rd Oct, taking up positions on the eastern side of Polygon Wood. These positions were in full view of the enemy in daylight.

The attack was led by 3/4th Queen's, with the second objective taken by 12/13 Northumberland Fusiliers on the right and 10/Yorkshire on the left; 1/Lincoln was to be in reserve. However, on the approach to the front line, the 10/ Yorkshire were badly mauled by German shelling in Glencourse Wood and Black Watch Corner.

1/ Lincoln took two and a half hours to cover four miles from Zillebeke Lake to their position, They arrived at about midnight. Heavy shelling continued over the whole area during the night. The moving troops were silhouetted against the light of the burning ammo dumps. Under cover of darkness (!) guiding tapes were
put out by the three leading battalions and posts (lookouts not wooden!) were pushed forward to Polygonbeek so that the enemy would remain unaware of what was taking place.

At 5 am the CO of 1/Lincoln , Lt-Col LP EVANS, returned from looking at the assembly positions and , acting on alternative Brigade orders, switched his battalion with 10/Yorkshire, as the latter had suffered such heavy casualties.

At 6am the attack began. The first obstacle was the Polygonbeek which was muddy and covered with entangled wire. The creeping barrage moved on before the men had all cleared the area. 10/Yorkshire moved into the front line as soon as the Brigade had moved forward.

There were several unexpected and well hidden concrete emplacements on the eastern bank of the Polygonbeek. Each had a garrison of 20-30 men and 3 machine guns. As soon as the creeping barrage had passed, they opened fire on the advancing troops and caused many casualties. It was also near here
that a German officer offered his surrender but when a Lt moved up to him, he took his revolver out and shot the Lt, killing him. The German was riddled with bullets by the men who had witnessed it.

The OC 1st Lincoln Regiment passed his two leading companies through the northern companies of the Queen's, scrambled across the bog of Jetty Warren and rushed the first objective, killing large numbers of Germans.

The Northumberland Fus backed up the Queen's and reached Judge Trench. The trench was full of 19th Reserve Div troops recently brought from Riga on the Russian front.

'The bayonet was freely used and a large number of fleeing Germans were shot. Hand grenades and Phosphorous bombs cleared the mebus and rifle grenades the more distant shell holes. One mebus was set on fire and the garrison either burnt to death or were shot. Few prisoners were taken.

The general sit rep (situation report) at 6-30am -
3/4th Queen's consolidating along the whole of the first objective, less one company digging in its immediate support.
On left, in continuation of Judge trench, elements of 1/S Staffs, on the right the KOYLI of 64th brigade.
In advance on the left 1/Lincoln forming for the attack on the second objective- C and D companies were in front; A and B reorganised in Judge trench. A was moved up shortly before the advance to the second line.

In the trenches on the right the 12/13 Northumberland Fus were forming up for the same purpose. 5th Div though were held up at Polderhoek Chateau and this had a knock on effect - 64th Brigade were suffering enfilade fire by machine gun - 12/13th found their flank in the air when at 08-10 the advance to objective two began. They also had machine gun fire from the Chateau to contend with. They advanced 150 yards and had to dig in.

The 1/Lincoln on the left were slightly protected by the curve of the spur, and only subjected to indirect fire from the Chateau, some machine guns from Judge Copse and the two isolated mebus and numerous snipers in shell holes. They obtained their final objective though and consolidated. The line whilst not continuous was tenable.
archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ENG-LINCSGEN/2004-...

Harold B.Wright.******************************************************

Probably
Name: WRIGHT, HAROLD BOSWELL
Rank: Private
Regiment: Training Reserve
Unit Text: 29th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 16/03/1917
Service No: TR/10/18180 Additional information: Son of Alfred William and Kate Emily Wright, of 24, Florence Rd., Thorpe Hamlet, Norwich.
Grave/Memorial Reference: E. 3493. Cemetery: SOUTHEND-ON-SEA (SUTTON ROAD) CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=357461

See brother Percy above for family census details.

The baptism of a Harold Boswell Wright, born 1st May 1898, took place at St Peters, Neatishead on the 26th August 1898. His parents are listed as Alfred William, a carpenter, and Kate Emily.

More on the church here

www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/norwichgeorgetombland/norwichge...

St Georges Tombland - Great War Roll Of Honour by Moominpappa06

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St Georges Tombland  - Great War Roll Of Honour

(Left hand Panel)
Brethren,
Of your Charity pray for the souls of our brothers
And all others who gave their lives in the Great War 1914-1919.

Stanley E F Abbott
Ernest Geof Adams
William Barnard
Harry Base
Raymond H.Bindley
John Borritt
Theodore S Brodie
Philip W.Brodie
Thomas E.Button
Cecil Stephen Copsey
John Henry Dawber
Dennis William Dowling
Arthur P.Green

(Right hand Panel)

Pray for us.

Henry Grimble
William Brasier Hall
James A(?) C(?) Inglis
William Metcalf
James Mills
Jack Newstead
Arthur Rump
Harold Runham
Bertie Smithdale
Sidney Tate
Cyprian Thompson
Percy Henry Wright
Harold B.Wright.

Eternal rest give unto them o Lord
And let perpetual light shine upon them.

Stanley Edward Felmingham Abbott***********************************

Name: ABBOTT, STANLEY EDWARD FELMINGHAM
Rank: Private
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 9th Bn.
Age: 29
Date of Death: 18/10/1916
Service No: 25881
Additional information: Son of Edward John Piggin Abbott, of 31, Cecil Rd., Ipswich Rd., Norwich; husband of Criss Liya Abbott, of 11, Onley St., Unthank Rd., Norwich. Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. M. 18. Cemetery: BANCOURT BRITISH CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=205507

No match on Norlink

The 1911 census has a Stanley Edward Felmingham Abbort, born circa 1887 Norwich and resident in the city on the night of the census. There is no obvious match on the Genes Re-united transcription of the 1901 Census for England and Wales. On the 1891 census, the 3 year old Stanley, born Norwich, is recorded at 7 City Road, Norwich. This is the household of his parents, (Edward, (aged 37 and a Merchants Clerk from Norwich) and Ellen, (aged 33 and from Norwich).

Wednesday 18th October 1916.
Gueudecourt

9th Bn, Norfolk Regt (6th Div) captured the north western part of Mild Trench and held it against a German attack at nightfall.
forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?t=9058&p...

A private letter from a Lieutenant Cubitt provides more detail:
For 48 hours, with water up to our knees, soaked to the skin, practically no water to drink, and dead beat, those splendid boys ‘stood to,’ fought, and bombed, and held on. It was glorious to see how when one man was killed another took his place, and, when he fell, a third man. They were all heroes.
F. Loraine Petrie OBE, The History of the Norfolk Regiment, Vol II 1914-1918, (Norwich: Jarrold and Sons,
Ltd.), p.260.
The War Diary notes there were 248 casualties: 9 officers and 239 ‘other ranks’.
www.bunwellhistory.co.uk/World%20War%20I%20Chapter%20rev%...

Ernest Geof Adams******************************************

Possibly
Name: ADAMS, ERNEST GEOFFREY
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 26/06/1918
Additional information: Son of Ernest William and Hester Alice Adams, of St. John's Vicarage, Bury St. Edmund's, Suffolk.
Grave/Memorial Reference: III. C. 5. Cemetery: BAGNEUX BRITISH CEMETERY, GEZAINCOURT
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=56901

But Military Genelogy has another two Ernests with more of a Norfolk connection.

No match on Norlink

The 1911 Census has a Ernest Geoffrey, born circa 1897 Bedford who was recorded in Bury St Edmunds on the night of the census - probably our man above.

On the 1901 census the 4 year old Ernest G, born Bedford, was recorded at 51 Hurst Grove South, Bedford. This was the household of his parents, Ernest W, (aged 38 and a Church of England Clergyman from Surbiton, Surrey) and Hester, A (aged 36 and born India). Its possible co-incidental, but their live in maid-servant comes from Hardingham, Norfolk.

On the same census there is also an Ernest D, (aged 15, working as a Clerk and born Norwich) who was recorded at 43 Magdalen Road, Norwich.

There is also a 1 year old Ernest, born Norwich, who was recorded living with his parents in Ipswich

Another officer from the 7th was killed on this day while investigating work carried out by the Germans in front of one of their forward posts, but it was 2nd. Lieut Adams. Another note a few days later, (29th), gives a possible clue. The Battalion was ravaged with influenza, (this was the Spanish Flu epidemic) and struggled to provide sufficient men for the work parties required.

William Barnard**************************************************

Most likely
Name: BARNARD Initials: W
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 413th Bty. 302nd Bde.
Age: 34
Date of Death: 16/12/1918
Service No: 121883
Additional information: Husband of Bessie Barnard, of 109, Goldwell Rd., Lakenham, Norwich.
Grave/Memorial Reference: H. 50. Cemetery: ALEXANDRIA (HADRA) WAR MEMORIAL CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=475870
No match on Norlink

The Great War Roll of Honour has Signaller 121883 William Barnard of the Royal Field Artillery recorded as dying in 1918.

Otherwise Possibly
Army Service Corps, from West Bradenham, Norfolk. Died 21/12/1915 Greenwich
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=385878

Or
1st Battalion Norfolk Regiment, from East Harling. Died 24/08/1914 France
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=877663

The most likely candidate on the 1901 census is a 13 year old William, born Norwich, who was recorded at 3 Zipfels Court, Norwich, (Parish of St Pauls - actually one of the courtyards towards the Stump Cross end of Magdalen Street)

This is the household of his parents, William, (aged 50 and a Carpenter from Horstead), and Elizabeth, aged 33 and from Norwich. Their other children are:-
Charles………….aged 7.………..born Norwich
Edward………….aged 10.………born Norwich
Frank……………aged u/1.……..born Norwich

The same individual on the 1911 census appears to have been recorded in the St Faiths district, which would have covered his fathers home village of Horstead. In terms of the right age, there are two Williams born Buxton circa 1884 and now recorded in the Aylsham District. There is also a William born Driffield, Yorks, who was recorded in the Norwich District on the night of the census. The last William doesn’t appear to be on the 1901 census.

Harry Base******************************************************

Name: BASE, HARRY
Rank: Gunner
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 45th Bty. 42nd Bde.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 04/05/1918
Service No: 956493
Additional information: Son of Harry and Charlotte Base. of Norwich.
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. E. 12. Cemetery: SANDPITS BRITISH CEMETERY, FOUQUEREUIL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=492832

A picture of Harry can be seen on Norlink here
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...
The accompanying notes read:-
Born at Bull Close, Norwich, Private Base was educated at Bull Close School. He enlisted 16th June 1915 and was killed in action 4th May 1918.

There is no obvious match for Harry on the Genes Reunited transcription of either the 1901 or 1911 census for England and Wales.

However, there is a George Base, aged 3 on the 1901 census, who was recorded at 8, Pipe Burners Row, Bull Close, Norwich. This is the household of his married father Charles, (aged 31 and a Surgical Instruments Labourer from Norwich). His wife was not resident on the night of the census. Their other children are:-
Charlotte…………..aged 8.…………….born Norwich
Henry………………aged 6.……………born Norwich
Katie R………………aged 4.…………….born Norwich

The only Charlotte Base with a Norwich connection was also aged 31, a married housewife who was recorded as an in-patient at the Norfolk and Norwich Hospital, St Stephens Road, Norwich, on the night of the census.

The baptism of George Base, born 4th March 1898, took place at St James Pockthorpe on the 31st August 1898, His parents are listed as Harry, a labourer, and Lottie. The family lived at Pipe Burner Row.

This was obviously a family tradition. Father Charles was known as “Harry” and so was son George.

Raymond Hall.Bindley**********************************************

Name: BINDLEY, RAYMOND HALL
Rank: Corporal
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Date of Death: 03/07/1916
Service No: 17148
Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 1 C and 1 D. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=768715

No match on Norlink

The 7 year old Raymond H. ,born Norwich, is recorded on the 1901 census at 217 Heigham Street, which is over the other side of the city. This is the household of Thomas J. (aged 41 and a Gas Fitter\Brass Finisher from Norwich), and Minnie E. (aged 35 and from Norwich).Their other children are:
Leonard T………….aged 12.……….born Norwich
Marjorie M…………aged 3.………..born Norwich

No match on Norlink

Monday 3rd July 1916.. Day 3

All the effort is now concentrated mostly south of the Albert-Bapaume Road between La Boiselle and Montauban. The only action north of the road is at Ovillers.

Ovillers

Another attack on this village by the 12th Div ended in total failure at a cost of 2,400 casualties.

North of Ovillers, the 32nd Div reinforced by 75 Bde of 25th Div attacked the Leipzig Redoubt near Authuille Wood. There was utter confusion over start times and the 32nd Div attack consisted of only two companies of the Highland Light Infantry. After two attempts no gains were made.
forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?t=9058

Battalion War Diary

The Battalion War Diary for July 1916 begins on the 6th with the opening sentence “Today is the first opportunity there has been of writing up the Diary since leaving RAINNEVILLE on June 30th”

The relevant part for the 3rd reads:-
We arrived in the trenches at 2.am on the 3rd July. The attack was to take place at 3.15 am that day, 35th and 37th Bdes on left and right respectively +36th Bde in reserve. The 19th Division were on our right. At 2 am on the 3rd July we reported all ready to the Brigade which was distributed for the attack. Front line Berks right, Suffolks left, Essex support, Norfolks reserve with orders not to go over the parapet without a special order from Brigade H.Q. At 3.15 am the Division attacked + as troops in front went over we mover up until at 4.15 am we were in the O.B.I. We had sustained considerable casualties in our way up the Communications Trench, about 100 men being killed, wounded or missing, only 1 officer being wounded, (Capt. J Tilley). The Battalion was not allowed to go over to the attack which had not succeeded, although several of our troops got into the Hun Trench. At 8 am the Bn. took over the whole of the Brigade front line from the other three regiments who went back into support to re-organise. The Germans shelled our line very heavily about this time with H.E. and shrapnel. The Battalion now holds the line from DORSET ROAD ® to BARROW ROAD (L). “B” Company in front line, D Coy in support, “C” Coy in reserve + “A” Coy doing a carrying party for bombs. About mid-day Lt.Col F G Walter was hit on the back by a piece of shell which broke the skin + bruised his right shoulder. However he did not leave the trenches. The remainder of the day, 3rd July, was comparatively quiet on our front though the 19th Division attacked LA BOISELLE again which they had been driven out of. The night July 3/4 was spent getting in wounded from between the lines + in connection with this work our M.O. Capt.R.B Lucas R.A.M.C was reported missing + it is thought that he walked into the German trenches by mistake - anyway he has not been heard of since.

Captain Lucas is commemorated on the Thiepval memorial to the Missing.

Raymond is also remembered on the St Matthews, Thorpe Hamlet, War Memorial.
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/6203810191/

John Borritt**************************************************

There is no one on the CWGC database with the surname Borritt, Borrit or Bonnitt for the Great War perid.

There are two matches for a John Borritt on the 1901 census - a father, aged 58 and a Blacksmith from Dovercourt, Essex, and a son, aged 17 and a Grocer from Camden Town, London. Both were recorded at 4, Percival Cottages, Finchley, Middlesex. Only the younger John is on the 1911 census - although he is shown as born St Pancras, Londin and resident Marylebone in the same city.

Theodore Stuart Brodie*******************************************

Name: BRODIE, THEODORE STUART
Rank: Lieut-Commander
Service: Royal Navy
Unit Text: H.M. Submarine E.15.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 17/04/1915
Additional information: Son of George Gordon Brodie and Louisa Mary Brodie, of Woodlands, Cheltenham.
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. A. 3. Cemetery: CHANAK CONSULAR CEMETERY
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=428474

No match on Norlink

There is no obvious match for Theodore on the Genes Re-united transcriptions of the Census for England and Wales for either 1901 or 1911.

On 17 April 1915, the E15, under the command of Lieutenant Commander Theodore Brodie, became the first British submarine to attempt a passage of the Dardanelles. E15 got caught in a current and ran aground near Kephez point on the Asian shore under the guns of a Turkish shore battery. Brodie was killed in the coning tower and six others died of chlorine poisoning inside the submarine. The rest of the crew became prisoners of war.

The E15 was one of the latest British submarines and the Royal Navy went to great lengths to stop it remaining in tact in enemy hands. Numerous attempts were made to sink it until finally it was hit and wrecked in a torpedo attack launched from two 'picket boats' launched from the British battleships Triumph and Majestic. Journalist Granville Fortescue, in a visit to the area in mid-1915, described the wreck of the E15:

Past Dardanos the land falls back into a small bay where the ill-fated E15 lies stranded. The grey line of her bow and her coning-tower with a cruel hole through it are all that now show above the water. By the whim of fate this submarine lies in the harbour where the British anchored in 1853 [during the Crimean War]. Time and again I turn to gaze back at the little grey hulk forsaken on the waters. It stands for a monument to modern bravery, for it was brave indeed to defy the many forts in so frail a craft. [Granville Fortescue, Russia, the Balkans and the Dardanelles, London, 1915, pp.236]

Lieutenant Commander Theodore Brodie, commander of the E15, age 31, lies buried in the Chanak Consular Cemetery, Çanakkale, Turkey.
[Photograph from Granville Fortescue, Russia, the Balkans and the Dardanelles, London, 1915 at the same web address]
www.anzacsite.gov.au/5environment/submarines/gallery/ae2/
The Commanding Officer of Submarine E15 was Lieutenant Commander Theodore Stuart Brodie who was the twin brother of Lieutenant Commander Charles G Brodie another Submarine Commanding Officer. These two Officers were nicknamed 'Dummy Head' and 'War Head' respectively by their compatriots. Theodore Brodie had previously commanded Submarines C36, C33, and D8. Theodore Brodie's First Lieutenant was Lieutenant Edward John Price who had been a Submariner since November 1912 and had previously served in E12.

Submarine E15 was sent to the Mediterranean on 27th March 1915 from Harwich with Submarines E11 and E14 and the Depot Ship HMS ADAMANT to support the Dardanelles campaign. The passage was via Devonport (28th Mar 1915), Gibraltar (1st Apr 1915), Malta (5th Apr 1915) arriving at the Greek Island of Lemnos on 8th Apr 1915. In the Mediterranean Submarine E15 with the other deployed Submarines of 'Special Service Flotilla I' (three B Class, two other E Class Submarines and the Australian AE2) - was based on the Submarine Depot Ship HMS ADAMANT.
At Lemnos an extra Officer joined the crew. He was Lieutenant Clarence Edward Stanhope Palmer, RNVR. He had previously been the Vice Consul at Chanak in Turkey and is assumed to have been on board owing to his knowledge of the Dardanelles and his ability to speak fluent Turkish. On 16th Apr 1915 E15 sailed for Mudros Harbour on the Greek Island of Lemnos and then at midnight sailed from Mudros for the Dardanelles.
At about 0700 on 17th Apr 1915 the Submarine ran a ground at Kephez Point in the Dardanelles whilst attempting to force the straits into the Sea of Marmora.
A diary kept by Telegraphist May records:
'Everything going well until about 7am when we struck and, despite all that could be done, we were soon high and dry. The Turkish batteries then opened fire on us one large shell entering our conning tower and killing the captain as he was going on the bridge. Several shells came through the boat, one entering the engines and bursting several oil pipes, thick smoke began to come from aft, but we could not see what had happened there.
The men then began to go up the conning tower and through the shell hole and take to the water. The boat was about three-quarters of a mile from the shore and this distance we had to swim. Several men would not attempt it and I think it was because of this that so many were injured.'
As reported the shell which hit the bridge of Submarine E15 killed the Commanding Officer Lieutenant Commander Theodore Brodie. Five more of the crew were killed by the shelling or were asphyxiated by smoke and chlorine gas or were lost overboard during the action. Seven others were wounded in the action.
The survivors had to swim about three quarters of a mile to the shore and the remaining members of the crew were then taken Prisoner of War. Some of those who died in the attack were firstly buried on the beach by the Turks but the bodies were later transferred to the Consular Cemetery at Chanak. The others are commemorated on the Naval War Memorials.
Urgent action was taken by the Royal Navy to destroy E15 before the Turkish Navy could salvage, repair and re commission the Submarine.
Attempts to destroy the submarine included shelling by Battle ship, torpedo attacks by Submarine (B6 which also grounded at the same place but managed to get off safely) and finally, attacks by armed picket boats from the Battle Ships HMS TRIUMPH and MAJESTIC destroyed the E15 with torpedoes whilst still aground at Kephez. When Submarine B6 attempted to destroy E15 Theodore Brodie's twin brother Charles, was in B6 as a passenger.
www.rnsubs.co.uk/Boats/BoatDB2/index.php?BoatID=90

There is a bit more about Brother Charles Naval career - but nothing to link the family with Norwich
www.unithistories.com/officers/RN_officersB5.html

Philip W.Brodie*************************************************

Name: BRODIE, PHILIP WYNDHAM
Rank: Captain
Service: Royal Air Force
Secondary Regiment: Seaforth Highlanders
Secondary Unit Text: and 1st Bn.
Age: 31
Date of Death: 18/11/1918
Additional information: Son of George Gordon Brodie and Louisa Mary Brodie, of Woodlands, Cheltenham; husband of T. H. Brodie, of Wellington Court, Cheltenham. Grave/Memorial Reference: I. C. 3. Cemetery: TARANTO TOWN CEMETERY EXTENSION
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2935134

No match on Norlink

The 1901 census has a 14 year old Philip W, born Birmingham, who was recorded as a Boarder at a school at London Road, Ridgate, Uppingham, Rutland.

There is an attempt to identify which unit he was serving with when he died of illness in this forum thread.
1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12725

There is a plaque to the two brothers in the church of All Saints, Tellisford, Somerset.
www.hellfirecorner.co.uk/TV/tellisford.htm

Thomas Edward.Button*********************************************

Probably
Name: BUTTON, THOMAS EDWARD
Rank: Private
Regiment: East Surrey Regiment
Unit Text: 8th Bn.
Date of Death: 30/09/1916
Service No: 20319
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 6 B and 6 C. Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=762546

Military Genealogy lists a Thomas Edward Button born St Bartholomews, Norwich, but with no place of residence recorded, on their Soldiers Who Died in the Great War database.

Thomas Edward, who’s unit is listed as the 8th East Surreys, can be seen here on Norlink
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

The accompanying notes read
Born at Norwich, 10th December 1892 and educated at Angel Road School. Enlisted in March 1916 and killed in action in France, 5th October 1916.
The picture was taken in 1916. (Note difference in date from that shown on the CWGC entry)

The most likely match on the 1901 census is an 8 year old Thomas, born Norwich, who was recorded at 54, Langley Street Norwich, in the parish of St Bartholomews. This was the household of his parents, Albert, (aged 36 and a “Fitter Up in Boot Trade” from Gt Yarmouth) and Rose, (aged 29 and from Norwich). Their other children are:-
Ethel…………………aged 4.…………..born Norwich
Fred………………….aged 6.…………..born Norwich

Checking out Norlink for Thomas, I found a Fred Victor. His additional details on the CWGC database notes he is the son of Rose Button, of 116, Aylsham Rd., Norwich, and the late Albert Button.
Buried at Hellesdon.
www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2803392
That seems too much of a co-incidence, and so I suspect this is Thomas’s brother.

Friday 29th September 1916. Day 91

6th Royal Berkshire Regt and 8th East Surreys relieved 8th Suffolks and 7th Queen’s respectively. At 6.30am 7th Royal West Kent Regt took over the line from 54 Bde from the west face of Schwaben Redoubt to the German front line. By 7.30am a bombing fight was raging at the redoubt lasting all day.

Saturday 30th September 1916. Day 92

Thiepval

A German attack at dawn drove the East Surreys from the southern face and the West Kents from the western face of Schwaben Redoubt. A hand to hand fight ensued during which the East Surreys re-took the lost ground. The Hun held onto the western face. At 4pm the East Surreys attacked and took the northern face of the redoubt while the West Kents and two platoons of 7th Buffs failed to retake the west face. At 9pm the Germans attacked again and drove the East Surreys back to the entrance to Stuff Trench.

forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showthread.php?t=9058&p...
qrrarchive.websds.net/PDF/ES00819160914.pdf
Officers - 4 killed, 4 wounded, 1 missing believed killed.
OR’s - 43 killed, 234 wounded, 34 missing

Cecil Stephen Samuel Bloom Copsey**********************************

Name: COPSEY, CECIL STEPHEN SAMUEL BLOOM
Rank: Private
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: 7th Bn.
Age: 18
Date of Death: 13/10/1915
Service No: 12573
Additional information: Son of William L. Copsey, of "Ivanhoe", Lower Hellesdon, Norwich, and the late Emma C. Copsey.
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 30 and 31. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=730360

His brother DLB can be seen on Norlink. He died while serving with the Essex Regiment
norlink.norfolk.gov.uk/02_Catalogue/02_013_PictureTitleIn...

No match on Norlink

The 4 year old Cecil, born Norwich, was recorded on the 1901 census at 141 Sprowston Road. This was the household of his parents, William L.(aged 31 and a Master Baker from Norwich), and Emma, (aged 29 and from Norwich). Their other children are:-
Cyril………………….aged u/1.………..born Norwich
Dudley………………..aged 2.…………born Norwich
Gwendoline………….aged 3.………….born Norwich

The Copsey’s also had a live in servant.

On 12th October 1915 the Battalion moved from billets to a line in front of the St Elie Quarries, taking over from the Coldstream Guards. The attack was planned to go ahead the following day under a smoke cloud with the Norfolks closing on the German trenches from both ends of their position thus straightening their line, their own trenches being in a semi-circle. The left side of the Battalion was also tasked with bombing a German communications trench. A bright sunny day with an ideal wind for moving the smoke towards the enemy positions, the artillery bombardment began at 12:00 and was intensive by 13:45. 54 heavy and 86 field howitzers and 286 field guns fired on enemy trenches in the area of the Hohenzollern Redoubt, Fosse 8, the Quarries, Gun Trench and the positions south to Chalk Pit Wood. It failed to cause sufficient damage to the enemy positions. The smoke barrage went wrong and ceased by 13:40, twenty minutes before the attack was launched at 14:00 and was thus very thin. German machine gun fire from in front and from the direction of Slag Alley, opposite the Norfolks right flank, enfiladed their attack. Whilst they gained a foothold in the Quarries and consolidated the position they were unable to advance further. In the battalions first serious engagement they lost 5 Officers killed or died of wounds and 6 wounded, and 66 other ranks killed, 196 wounded and 160 missing.
Source: 1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42270

John Henry Dawber************************************************

No obvious match on the CWGC database or Military Genealogy.

Checking the Genes Re-united transcriptions of the 1901 and 1911, the surname Dawber barely occurs outside Lancashire. While there are 6 woman with that surname who have a Norfolk birthplace on the 1911 census, they have all become Dawber on marriage and reside in the North West of England.

The 1911 census has one John Henry, born Wigan circ 1873 and recorded in the Wigan district on the night of the census. There is also a John H. born Wigan circa 1896 and again recorded in the Wigan District. There are many other John’s who might be a potential match.

Dennis William Dowling********************************************

Probably - only match
Name: DOWLING, DENNIS WILLIAM
Rank: Shoeing Smith Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 9th Bty. 41st Bde.
Age: 24
Date of Death: 21/03/1918
Service No: 68763
Additional information: Son of William and Minnie Dowling, of High Rd., Wortwell, Harleston, Norfolk.
Grave/Memorial Reference: X. E. 17. Cemetery: ROCQUIGNY-EQUANCOURT ROAD BRITISH CEMETERY, MANANCOURT
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=243657

The 7 year old Dennis, born Redenhall, was recorded on the 1901 census at Redenhall Street, Redenhall. This was the household of his parents, William, (aged 38 and a Church Parish Clerk from Wortwell) and Minnie, (aged 36 and from Fakenham). They also have a daughter, Mabel, aged 6 and born Redenhall.

“Denis” is commemorated on the Harleston War Memorial
www.roll-of-honour.com/Norfolk/Harleston.html

Arthur P.Green**********************************************

Possibly
Name: GREEN, ARTHUR PERCEVAL
Rank: Lieutenant
Regiment: Norfolk Regiment
Unit Text: "D" Coy. 7th Bn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 06/07/1916
Additional information: Son of the Rev. William Arthur and Alice Mary Green, of Winterdon Rectory, Great Yarmouth.
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. I. 22. Cemetery: ALBERT COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
CWGC www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=551889

This individual is also on the Winterton War memorial
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/4587322372/
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/4586696521/

And on a plaque for his parents and his brother that’s inside the church
www.flickr.com/photos/43688219@N00/4586721993/

The 7 year old Arthur P. (born Winterton), can be found on the 1901 census at The Rectory, Winterton. This is the household of his parents, William, (aged 44 and a CoE Clergymman from Gadby, Leicestershire), and Alice M, (aged 34 and from Hants). Their other children are :
Claude S…………………………..aged 6
Dorothy M………………………..aged 8
Evelyn F…………………………..aged 2
Marjorie F………………………..aged 4
Thomas C………………………..aged u/1

Alice’s sister, Dorothy K Percival, aged 28 and single, is also living with them. The family have four domestic servants

The 12th Division, of which the 7th Norfolks were part, suffered very heavy casualties in an attack on the 3rd July, and appear to have been pulled from the line, returning on the 7th July. While Lt Green may possibly have been killed while reconnoitring the trenches his men were going to take over the next day, or for a variety of other reasons, the suspicion must be that he succumbed to wounds received.

More on the church here

www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/norwichgeorgetombland/norwichge...